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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201664767" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201664767">(Jun 22 2020 at 21:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> the Zulip stream comment for new MCPs says something about "this will be discussed in the next meeting" or something. Maybe we could rephrase to something like</p>
<p>"This will be announced in the next meeting to try and draw attention to it."</p>
<p>or something like that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201664818" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201664818">(Jun 22 2020 at 21:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure! Do you think it needs to be different for lang and compiler? I guess no?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201664851" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201664851">(Jun 22 2020 at 21:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, the main thing is not to convey that there is some "synchronous discussion" that is going to happen</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201664938" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201664938">(Jun 22 2020 at 21:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>see also the discussion here <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/303">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/303</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201664954" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201664954">(Jun 22 2020 at 21:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess ideally we'd maybe tinker the text a bit more even but that'd be a start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201780741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201780741">(Jun 23 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> are <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/319#issuecomment-648232514">these comments</a> chiding folks for leaving comments on the github issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201780762" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201780762">(Jun 23 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>or are they the result of a bug of some kind</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201780813" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201780813">(Jun 23 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, we can call it whatever you'd wish :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201780831" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201780831">(Jun 23 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>But not intentional</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201780841" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201780841">(Jun 23 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol ok :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201780932" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201780932">(Jun 23 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Probably good to file an issue for both requests here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201788185" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201788185">(Jun 23 2020 at 21:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> I don't think I would want to nag folks, to be clear.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201788208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201788208">(Jun 23 2020 at 21:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>tbh I still don't think it's clear that MCP discussion over zulip is better than on the issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201788221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201788221">(Jun 23 2020 at 21:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, I think it's probably overdoing it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201788303" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201788303">(Jun 23 2020 at 21:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do think having something more .. dynamic, I guess, I useful for hashing things out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201788517" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201788517">(Jun 23 2020 at 21:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I'm not sure if that means we should recommend Zulip topics for "simple things" and push for more formal discussion on GitHub. I think it's similar to RFCs in this way, where GitHub isn't ideal but maybe also the best we have</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201853610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201853610">(Jun 24 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I could see some value to saying:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201853647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201853647">(Jun 24 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is a Zulip topic that can be used for back-and-forth</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201853670" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201853670">(Jun 24 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201853752" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201853752">(Jun 24 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I think that having a GH conversation that is "short-lived" is pretty decent</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201853786" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201853786">(Jun 24 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., if the MCP is going to undergo major changes, it should be closed and re-opened with those changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201906997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201906997">(Jun 24 2020 at 21:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm yeah perhaps</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201907015" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201907015">(Jun 24 2020 at 21:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do think ... like, if I want to ask a question, I somewhat prefer to do that on Zulip</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201907035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201907035">(Jun 24 2020 at 21:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>particularly if there's discussion that's more "on key" (with e.g. people who know more)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text%20of%20the%20zulip%20stream%20comment/near/201907085" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/text.20of.20the.20zulip.20stream.20comment.html#201907085">(Jun 24 2020 at 21:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we should push for discussion on github and questions on zulip but no real enforcement of either.</p>
<p>not sure if that makes sense though. I wouldn't really want to split discussion though</p>



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